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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:24 am
  

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Oh this story from a witch friend on care2, who was with those Hippies trying to raise the Pentagon decades ago just has to be thrown in here as an example of a Country that works.


The REAL happily thereafter fairy tale of the 21st century.

A time long ago, 2008, there was a small happy prosperous country. Some details about this country. It had a fantastic single payer health care system. In 2008, it was the closest to carbon neutral of all industrial countries. All of its municipal, industrial and residential energy needs were met by sustainable non-polluting hydro power and geothermal power. It was and is a world leader in developing hydro and geothermal power. It was planet friendly country on our poor planet. (Well, almost, they are a whaling nation, Alas.)

It led the world in 19 disciplines within the Information Technology field. That was 2008, additional IT disciplines have been developed by this country since then.

Healthy food, in a large variety, is available and affordable. Comfortable housing is available and affordable. Gainful and emotionally satisfying employment is enjoyed by most. It is impossible to describe the educational opportunities or the creative, healthy, leisure activities that are an integral part of the life of the people.

LO!!! A dark cloud is spreading across the sky. The banks of the small nation have been carelessly and greedily involved in speculation. The banks have behaved horribly. Through sale and resale, manipulation and repackaging, their assets are assets no longer. The financiers of the world rush to ICELAND to explain how the banks can be bailed out at the expense of the people. The International Monetary Fund arrives at the doors of the government with a primary austerity program to help the people begin to pay the debt they will be incurring from bailing out the banks.

And, the government of Iceland lets the banks DEFAULT. Strange government. It does not believe that banks can be too big to fail. It does believe that the people are too big to fail.

So what does Iceland have left out of all of this ....?

Single payer excellent health care system, earth friendly power, people friendly food, comfortable abodes for all, enjoyable employment, world leadership in the two technology fields that will dominate the globe in the 21st century

AND the people of Iceland are living happily ever after.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:48 am
  

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5 Things You Need To Know About The Post Office

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/fi ... ice/11433/

2. The postal service doesn’t rely on taxpayer funds.

Until 1971, mail delivery was handled by the Post Office Department, a Cabinet department in the federal government. Postal worker strikes prompted President Nixon to pass the Postal Reorganization Act in 1971, transforming it into the semi-independent agency we now know as the United States Postal Service. The USPS in its current form runs like a business, relies on postage for revenue and, for the most part, has not used taxpayer money since 1982, when postage stamps became “products” instead of forms of taxation. Taxpayer money is only used in some cases to pay for mailing voter materials to disabled and overseas Americans.

USPS spokespersons have been adamant in emphasizing that they are not requesting taxpayer funds from the federal government to make this year’s payment. Rather, they say, the USPS is asking Congress to authorize access to an estimated $7 billion that they overpaid into the future retiree pension fund in previous years.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:59 am
  

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Jafo, who is lying now?

Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Only an idiot like you would consider the great depression a success of capitalism!

Only a lying asshole would say I said that.

Starting Feb19 9:27pm
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo wrote:

Funny how your story changes when you are confronted with your own words.. First you blame the great depression on Capitalism, then you say it was not capitalism, but the men who ran capitalism, lol. Oh that was beautiful.

You decide LOL!!!


I had no idea how amazingly stupid you are until this moment.

Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
I had no idea how amazingly stupid you are until this moment.

Name calling won't change the fact: you were just beaten with your own words:
heraclitis wrote:
Are we going through it again. NOBODY EVER SAID IT WAS CAPITALISM...IT WAS MEN WHO WERE FREE MARKET CAPITALISTS BY PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!!!

heraclitis wrote:
Are you telling me the Markets never spin out of balance and leave people destitute? Are you telling me there would good old days before the entitlements when people did not suffer from the failures of capitalism? I guess that whole great depression is a myth?

HAHAHA!! It sucks when your own idiocy comes back to bite you doesn't it?

Laughing SO HARD right now.. Good morning America!!


heraclitis wrote:

Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism! Are you telling us it was a Success of Capitalism?
Are you saying this recession we are living through that took a huge chunk of my retirement is a Success of Capitalism?
If these are Successes of Capitalism then I think you have a pretty good case that Capitalism can not be salvaged!


Jafo wrote:
Let me remind everyone again:

heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!


(Let's all chant everyone: "Full of shit, full of shit, everybody knows Heraclitis is full of shit!")


Feb 21 8:39am
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb 21 5:43pm
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb 21 5:46pm
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb21 6:14pm
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb 23 8:18am
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb23 8:51am
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb23 9:03am
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb23 7:22pm
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)

Feb23 9:06pm
Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)


I count 10 to 12 times (Note, I added the context of the discussion where Jafo was asked "are you telling us the Great Depression was a success of Capitalism?" and his answer was refer to above post of

Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, The Great depression was a Failure of Capitalism!

(FULL OF SHIT, FULL OF SHIT)


Jafo, who is lying now?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:17 am
  

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Capitalism can't fail, its was ordained by the first corporate saints, who held all the money in common, just as they do today.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:33 am
  

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leoburg wrote:
Capitalism can't fail, its was ordained by the first corporate saints, who held all the money in common, just as they do today.

Hallelujah brother!
Can we get an amen from the amen section?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:52 am
  

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heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, who is lying now?

I think it is clear, it is you who are lying. Where in all of those quotes did I say "The Great Depression was a success of capitalism"?

Nowhere.

You are a piece of shit you know that? Every other word out of your mouth is either a lie or insane.

Here it is, quite clear you lying shit head:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14408&start=345#p467858

I will even quote from it:
jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Are you telling us it was a Success of Capitalism?

No, I am telling you it was a failure of government, particularly the first socialist constructs of our present day government.

There it is everyone! How does it feel to be exposed AGAIN as a lying piece of shit? Wouldn't your dust bowl farming grandparents be proud!

(FULL OF SHIT LIAR! FULL OF SHIT LIAR)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:54 am
  

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Goofus wrote:
My problem with you Jafo is that you lie. Not just misrepresent the truth but lie. You have completely misrepresented things I have said. Your "facts" don't check out, and you think you have prevailed in an argument when you haven't. I place no weight on anything you say.

My problem with you is that you are a complete Doofus. My facts always check out. In fact, I am the only one here who ever puts forward any facts.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:57 am
  

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nortonkevin wrote:
You strike me as a big fish in a really tiny pond. Blundervibes sent for you to find some humility, humanity, peace and coherency in your life. I mean that sincerely. Your diatribes make the republican primary debates appear almost intellectual and compassionate. Almost. Maybe you can't help being obsessed by your delusions of grandeur - help is available - all you need to do is ask for it.

You strike me as an aging hippie who believes in things like "vibes" because you smoked most of the braincells you had left after dropping innumerable sheets of acid. Either that or you are just naturally retarded.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:58 am
  

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leoburg wrote:
5 Things You Need To Know About The Post Office

There is only one thing you need to know: only an idiot looks to the post office for salvation.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 am
  

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Jafo wrote:
Goofus wrote:
My problem with you Jafo is that you lie. Not just misrepresent the truth but lie. You have completely misrepresented things I have said. Your "facts" don't check out, and you think you have prevailed in an argument when you haven't. I place no weight on anything you say.

My problem with you is that you are a complete Doofus. My facts always check out. In fact, I am the only one here who ever puts forward any facts.


Jafo says "My facts always check out". Like the time you told us the Federal Reserve was a socialist plot to destroy America! Good one!
Merriam Webster Word for the Day

Ideologue:: an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology.

as in

Jafo is a teabagger ideologue. He neurotically ignores reality in his quest to save humanity from socialism.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 am
  

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jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Are you telling us it was a Success of Capitalism?

No, I am telling you it was a failure of government, particularly the first socialist constructs of our present day government.


heraclitis wrote:
Only an idiot like you would consider the great depression a success of capitalism!

(Lying Sack of Shit, Lying Sack of Shit)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:08 am
  

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Come on Heraclitis, try to reason how I said it was a success of capitalism when I clearly said No!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:09 am
  

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Come on you lying fuck..


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:11 am
  

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Jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Jafo, who is lying now?

I think it is clear, it is you who are lying. Where in all of those quotes did I say "The Great Depression was a success of capitalism"?

Nowhere.

You are a piece of shit you know that? Every other word out of your mouth is either a lie or insane.

Here it is, quite clear you lying shit head:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14408&start=345#p467858

I will even quote from it:
jafo wrote:
heraclitis wrote:
Are you telling us it was a Success of Capitalism?

No, I am telling you it was a failure of government, particularly the first socialist constructs of our present day government.

There it is everyone! How does it feel to be exposed AGAIN as a lying piece of shit? Wouldn't your dust bowl farming grandparents be proud!

(FULL OF SHIT LIAR! FULL OF SHIT LIAR)


So you are finally saying that JP Morgan and John D Rockefeller and their brain child the Federal Reserve is a socialist and not a capitalist construct? That means your capitalist gods JP Morgan and John D Rockefeller are socialists?

C'mon smart ass, answer the question, I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:12 am
  

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You answer the fucking question.. Come on, show me where I said it was a success of capitalism!! You can't. You know why? Because YOU MADE IT UP! I am not going to answer another question of yours until you face this FACT.


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