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 Post subject: Ron Paul
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:43 am
  

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I am philosophically Libertarian and have been for some time (albeit much different from Jafo) and I do like a lot of what Ron Paul says:

Just throw this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Paul
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:15 am
  

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I like how Ron Paul has solutions from thinking outside the box, of the left-right status quo which has us in this mess.

Ron Paul's Foreign Policy is long over due. This fiat or fractional banking monetary system has the world on the brink of an economic collapse. Those are 2 core issues, which when fixed, will make lots of other issues look trivial.

(This came from Care2 Friend Jim Steve from New Windsor New York. It explained in terms I could understand what I think Ron Paul is all about. I hear a lot of fear from people who think our civil rights gains would be rolled back by him. I find that nonsense. Reality looks to me, with a just about worthless dollar, that the people may not have many liberties left.)

http://www.care2.com/news/member/406091837/3049448

''So, what more do we have? Free market capitalism is blamed for a failing economy all the while both the leaders of the left and right collude to give their corporate masters advantages in bailouts, tax breaks, sweetheart deals and regulations targeted at their competition. The left, rolls over making excuses as bills like the Patriot act and the latest assault of "indefinite detention". Bills championed as reform come pre packaged with monopolies for powerful corporations, and other special interests jockey for a position at the government feeding troth.''-article

''Finally a honest man steps forward to oppose the corruption and extends his hand to all Americans. The result? The Christian .conservatives reject him for being a peacemaker. The corporations assault him for seeking free markets. The right attacks him for protecting personal rights. And the left? The left throws rocks from palaces of glass.''-article

Video of Veteran on why he likes Ron Paul.

http://youtu.be/XhS82OvIzvw

Elisabeth Warren for US Senate in Massatack. No one person and or clearly no party has all of the solutions.

http://youtu.be/kE_wj6NHdEQ


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Paul
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:18 pm
  

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of course, being for peace instead of war sounds good to me too!

i was thinking about his stand on public schools (is it to abolish them or not)

i thought these two clips were interesting

it doesn't start out about public schools in this one but it gets there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_r9nf2joo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EAYncCRok


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Paul
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:14 am
  

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agnes wrote:
of course, being for peace instead of war sounds good to me too!

i was thinking about his stand on public schools (is it to abolish them or not)

i thought these two clips were interesting

it doesn't start out about public schools in this one but it gets there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_r9nf2joo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-EAYncCRok


I think both of those videos show Ron Paul's inconsistencies and unclear approaches to some of the major problems that need to be addressed. I think one of the things that people often struggle with is when people try to change the system is that they must still live within the system. In Ron Paul's case I think he is truly conscious of this conundrum.

If you look at the start of the second video he categorically 100% right that there are and have been public school failures. THe question then stems to what caused these failures. There are communities and loads of communities where public schools have not failed.


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 Post subject: Re: Ron Paul
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:46 pm
  

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heraclitis wrote:
If you look at the start of the second video he categorically 100% right that there are and have been public school failures. THe question then stems to what caused these failures. There are communities and loads of communities where public schools have not failed.


yes, i don't know what i could add to that there to say it any clearer. (yet i will go on) :)
some public schools are better than others. that is something that needs to be looked at. i like it that there are public schools. without them a lot of kids would have no school at all. creating an even broader divide between the haves and have nots. to do away with them (public schools) somehow seems like part of the groundwork towards a plutocracy of sorts. (i think plutocracy is the right word?)

as for crime in the inner cities and stuff...what role does the war on drugs play in this? do we really have to get rid of the whole public school system to take another approach to this "war on drugs" matter?

i hope that makes sense, they are just some thoughts


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