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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:59 pm
  

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...we must to some degree consider ourselves to BE the establishment. Even if that is not true, attemping to change what may be bad about the establishment from within the establishment might just be the most productive way.


Who 'we', kemo sabe? If he does that he'll NEVER qualify for the rock 'n roll hall of fame. This is how the left becomes right, the right becomes center, the batter bunts and homeplate is where you warm up leftover grits for Amish rebels. He'll become a political pundit and I'll become a folk singer. GAD!!!

It just ain't koscher for the kid who lifted his middle finger to the draft and wrote "I Just Gotta Ball You Right Now" to join the ReproBates. What am I gonna believe in now? Will he cut his hair? Buy a suit? Play a Takamine instead of a Martin? Ride a Yamaha instead of a Harley (oops.... there were signs)? Date starlets? Drink Sanka? Make war not love? Play Aleister's BBQ on Thanksgiving? Learn to like PICKLES?

It cain't be true!!! Then again... it might be right.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574316441057304748.html


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:05 pm
  

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Easy now! :D The sky ain't falling.......just everything else. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:18 pm
  

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Apparently the Wall Street Journal and the Chinese agree with Arlo about the dangers of printing money to buy back the patriot's dream:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203609204574316460622633026.html

Let the sky fall. I went long on salt mines and shorted the airlines. I'm gonna make a killin'.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 pm
  

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The best way for Arlo to counteract the possibility of his name being co-opted by Republicans he might not like would be for Obama to appoint him to some position here in DC. Obama likes appointing Republicans (Lahood), and celebrities (Kal Penn). This would give him 2 for the price of 1. Maybe something in the National Park Service, like "Park Ranger Troubadour".


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:46 pm
  

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It isn't about the parties. The masks are off. It is about enslavement by the few of the many through a legal system that permanently enfranchises their brands and concentrates the wealth even more that it has been concentrated.

What will we do about that? Whine. Why? We want the bread and circuses. We can't tolerate the boredom of our anonymity.


And so many of us refuse to look beneath the masks, finding other imaginary conspiracies to occupy our minds.

BTW, on a related subject, my Dollhouse DVDs arrived today, and Epitaph One (unaired episode that time jumps) is right on point -- dystopic vision of a future world where those in control use the bodies of those not to achieve immortality.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:00 pm
  

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Eileen wrote:



"The best way for Arlo to counteract the possibility of his name being co-opted by Republicans he might not like would be for Obama to appoint him to some position here in DC. Obama likes appointing Republicans (Lahood), and celebrities (Kal Penn). This would give him 2 for the price of 1. Maybe something in the National Park Service, like "Park Ranger Troubadour"."


Great idea Eileen! I think Obama should create a new cabinet position for Arlo......make him head of the "Department of Peace, Love and Diplomacy Through Storytelling and Folk Music" :D Drastic times call for drastic measures!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:43 am
  

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One thing I read about Obamas healthcare that scares me is. I read where he wants to make it where if you don't have health insurance you have to pay a penalty fine. He evidently does not realize that the reason folks don't have it is either they can't afford it or have a pre-exisiting condition like diabetes & the insurance co won't cover them. Mike & I couldn't get the insurance cuz we had a pre-exisiting condition, diabetes and couldn't afford the insurance anyway. Thank God we were able to get under a free medical program at a local hospital. So before penalizing folks for not having insurance, he needs to understand why the folks don't have it. Sure hopem he does not do this. He means well with his new health plan but some parts of it like this penalty for not having insurance stuff just isn't right...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:28 am
  

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Eileen wrote:
The best way for Arlo to counteract the possibility of his name being co-opted by Republicans he might not like would be for Obama to appoint him to some position here in DC. Obama likes appointing Republicans (Lahood), and celebrities (Kal Penn). This would give him 2 for the price of 1. Maybe something in the National Park Service, like "Park Ranger Troubadour".


Maybe. I mean perhaps we now have a mole, an guy..... inside....... undercover..... working as a spy.I mean Arlo may not look like your prototypical republican. But as Arlo has noted at some of his gigs(paraphrasing) " There are lots of weird people here disguised as normal". I mean do you think he could sell the republicans on the reverse in his case? :? :wink:
I mean some of them will be smart enough to know that he is actually working for them by working for us.....won't they?
Some of them will rejoice at having folded the hippies into thier party.
Others will just look quizzeled and say "WTF"?!
Any way you work it......it's gunna be fun. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:03 am
  

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As the only male founding member of the local Women's Political Caucus, I say with some experience, change from the inside is tough if you are the goat to be sacrificed at the beginning of the meeting.

A cause without a goat is peanut butter fudge without the oatmeal. It tastes ok but you can't hold it together once out of the pan.

Still, he is right. The Republicans are in the weeds of a estuary. There is burgeoning life all around them but all they worry about is the mud sucking sound they make as they keep looking for a way onto dry land so they can shoot geese. Unless a) The Democrats blow it (50/50) or b) Palin or Huckaby or whosis get a heart transplant and better script discipline, the Republicans are down for a term and a half meaning it could be 2016 before they get another shot at the White House. Meanwhile, a quiet but consistent infusion of new members with different ideas from the evangelicals, yet with a spirit of outreach and genuine caring for those NOT of their kind could transform the party into not just the loyal opposition, but the worthy opposition.

Evolution is slow but it has one advantage over radical change: the features it brings tend to last. As I said, the sexual revolution would have vanished without impact had it not been absorbed into radical feminism. It isn't that radical now but the change appears to be permanent. Women really do own their own bodies now, have choices and make them without thinking twice that exactly one generation ago, this wasn't the case.

As long as he isn't the goat, he can make a difference there that he won't make on the Democratic side where by their current measures, he is a vegetarian at a goat burning.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:10 am
  

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It would sure make the Republican National Convention alot more fun and interesting. Arlo: "Come on, everybody sing......This land is your land, this land is my land......" :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:28 pm
  

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Sure.....and after he wins their minds and hearts, he could play " Presidential Rag" "Children of Abraham" "When a Soldier Makes it Home" "In Times Like These" and "Alice's".............they might learn something there! I ain't holding my breath of course..... :D

Of course he would be singing to a crowd that might think Springsteen's " Born in the USA" means something other than what it does, since all they hear is the title line really..... :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:07 pm
  

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Yeah, it could be tricky, but Arlo is a trickster......kind of like serving fried iguana to someone and telling them it's chicken. You wait until they say how good it was before you tell them what they just ate and so adamantly enjoyed. Get 'em all singing "This land....." until they are absolutely glowing with patriotism and feeling so good about having Arlo around, then he plays the last verses about the sign that said "private property" on one side and "nuthin" on the other "that side was made for you and me", and the one "by the relief office/ I saw my people/ as they stood there hungry/ I stood there wonderin'/ if this land was made for you and me"........they might not sing the following chorus with as much enthusiasm......if they were distracted and DID sing with enthusiasm, W., uncle Dick, even poor Sara singin' it proudly for the cameras, well, that would be something!!! (Hey Arlo, if I just mistakenly divulged some top secret classified information, delete this immediately, and then kill me) :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:27 pm
  

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Yeah it's like espionage! Sort of like an internal cold war. I suppose if ya gotta have a war, it may just as well be a cold war.....as long as you keep it from warming up.
I can see it now, Arlo walking up to the bar in a casino in Monte Carlo, wearing a tux, and ordering a dry vodka martini, shaken not stirred. :wink:


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Everything but the tux. As I recall, even the Boston Pops couldn't convince him to wear one.

Now engineering a guitar case to carry all his secret paraphanalia for the mission would be fun.

"Yessir, this pick can cut through six inches of titanium alloy with a single downstroke. Now you know why Big Blue is made of composites. Originally, it didn't have that hole at the top, but then I did my Pete Townshend imitation, and well, sliced it clean through. And this capo, it can support the weight of the whole tour bus. No, don't ask about those extra holes on the harmonica. Then I WOULD havta kill ya."


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:24 pm
  

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"......having just escaped mastication by the humongous mutant giant clam by the slimest of margins, dispatching the ravenously programmed bi-valve with his A-440 miniature phosphorous-tipped rocket-propelled clampoon, CFM Secret Agent 0018, wearing his tie-dyed camoflauge and bullet-proof leathers, began the long and perilous ascent up the sheer rock cliff using specially designed suction-cupped finger-picks, realizing that he was running out of time to reach the dark depths of the Neocon Castle above him, locate the neutron bomb that was ticking away its last moments within its walls and harmoniously convert it into the first un-neutron bomb the world has ever experienced......."


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