ArloNet • Obama Scewups

Captain Zap · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:38 am

Dave wrote:

Um, so far all he's done in office is sign his name to a piece of paper -

Maybe we can get him to dress up in a flight suit and land on an aircraft carrier!

PSBeaty · **Joined:** Oct 18, 2004 **Posts:** 2251

Dave wrote:

nortonkevin wrote:

...a ban on torture and ordering Guantanamo shut down, the inaugural oath faux pas in the former---not bad for his first week!

The war on terror is no game.

NO SHIT! Maybe you should have said this to Bush and Cheney and all those f'n idiots who made a mess of the world in the name of profit! Just a thought!

agnes · **Joined:** Sep 15, 1999 **Posts:** 8350

agnes wrote:

Eileen wrote:

Whether Obama or Roberts (or both) were at fault, they're not alone. Every President in recent memory has screwed up the "oath". This is what the Constitution requires of the person becoming President:

"Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: 'I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.'" [Constitution, Article I, Section 1]

So whenever someone adds "so help me God," they've "screwed up".

i remember hearing those words and wondering..."is that the way it goes?"
not that i knew anything otherwise...but was curious?

MG wrote:

"So help me God"isn't in the constitution?? I have been living under a rock! I did not know someone could just arbitrarily punctuate the executive oath with the Almighty! Anyone know how often it has happened??

it made me think of that separation of church and state thing...that is why i was wondering about it is all

kj · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:41 pm

recently i heard a an abc anchor reporting the Gitmo closing order.... then following with the horrors that might follow because 1 guy who got released is now an active terrorist somewhere...

and i thought... this is what needs to stop...

this process of reacting with fear, negativity and dire warnings (very high drama) to changes in the status quo... is what carries us down the prickly path of being too scared to be different.... being too afraid to risk real change, real humanity, truth and transparency....

we are always vulnerable, we are always at risk and it's time to grow up and live with that...
and some will be so afraid and/or so pi**ed off that they will continue to try to spread that fear ...

i will not participate... I will not judge those who do... but count me out of that very harmful game we have played...

No Drama...

my plan.... listen to my heart, my instincts ... discuss, take action... live with the consequences...

Dave · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:09 pm

I agree about not reacting in fear... Reacting in fear got the $700 billion bailout plan passed. It's also the primary reason I will vote against anyone who helped pass it in upcoming elections.

And perhaps I am wrong - but did I not hear Obama say that his economic stimulus package would not effect us in our lifetime - but it would instead be our children who would foot the bill? And even if I'm not wrong I'm sure you hardcore lefties will have a spin to put on that as well.

Eileen · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:03 pm

MG -- The Constitution explicitly prohibits requiring a religious test of anyone holding public office or trust (Article VI).

Adding "so help me God" is just custom and nobody really knows how far back it goes -- it's still debated whether Washington said it.

MG · **Joined:** Jul 04, 2007 **Posts:** 634

Eileen wrote:

MG -- The Constitution explicitly prohibits requiring a religious test of anyone holding public office or trust (Article VI).

Adding "so help me God" is just custom and nobody really knows how far back it goes -- it's still debated whether Washington said it.

Thank you, Eileen, for answering that question! So OMG can now become SHMG!

MG wrote:

Eileen wrote:

Whether Obama or Roberts (or both) were at fault, they're not alone. Every President in recent memory has screwed up the "oath". This is what the Constitution requires of the person becoming President:

"Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: 'I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.'" [Constitution, Article I, Section 1]

So whenever someone adds "so help me God," they've "screwed up".

"So help me God"isn't in the constitution?? I have been living under a rock! I did not know someone could just arbitrarily punctuate the executive oath with the Almighty! Anyone know how often it has happened??

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