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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:18 pm
  

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Cheryl Harrell wrote:
They want to impose fines for those who don't have health insurance. They don't realize if we don't have it it's because we either can't afford it and/or have a pre-existing condition and the insurance companies won't insure those with pre-exisisting conditions.


Maybe that's another reason why the public option would be a good idea or the single payer, government run health care system would be an even better idea, both of which Republican and moderate Democrat Congress members are against. Or it could just be another scary line of bull crap to try to keep any health care reform from happening.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:29 pm
  

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Those hard working, honest elected officials wouldn't lie to us or try to scare us, would they? :?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:30 pm
  

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I agree w3ith ya on the fines. I don't opposed the govt healthcare if it is done right & patients aren't denied care & they take the conservatives in consideration when they do it. But sadly they will probably do it wrong & have folks who need healthcare getting denied it cuz they have to wait.

I found this online:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/ap_ ... ealth_care

Evidently Dave & I aren't the only dissatisfied customers...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:22 am
  

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Cheryl Harrell wrote:
I don't opposed the govt healthcare ...


I am! I don't want government healthcare..I want affordable access to health care free of corporate greed. Capitalism is OK when goods are on the table it is those damn services that can be a bitch!

Cheryl Harrell wrote:
if it is done right & patients aren't denied care ...


I thought the whole idea was to ensure more people get reasonable care across the board!

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& they take the conservatives in consideration
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Leadership by hissy fits! (You got to listen to us even though we are just standing in the doorways and blocking the halls!)

I think people are pissed (and approval rating drop) because they sense there is no concerted effort to accomplish anything and it is all a bunch of bullshit propaganda and Obama tends to be a bargain maker instead of trying to over turn the tables

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But sadly they will probably do it wrong & have folks who need healthcare getting denied it cuz they have to wait.....


But wait a minuite...ISN"T THAT WHERE THIS WHOLE DEBATE STARTED?

I don't understand, this is all too complicated! Does anybody have a road map? If anybody asks, I am just gonna disapprove!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:16 pm
  

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I'm not nuts about Obama but I voted for him. I couldn't vote for Man who made fun of WAR with a Beach Boy Song. What I don't like is the Prez. did what he said he would do in Pakistan... Now if Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul were on the same ticket we would have been better off.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:33 pm
  

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PSBeaty wrote:
If anybody asks, I am just gonna disapprove!


son of a gun, neither am i! and besides!!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:03 pm
  

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Can we start a poll for who would vote for Dennis and Ron?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:36 am
  

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I'll vote for Ron. At least Kerry didn't get in here. I don't like him. He always has this smirky grin on his face like he is up to something...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:45 pm
  

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This update:

"President Barack Obama's approval rating is holding steady in the mid-50's, according to a new CNN Poll of Polls.
Fifty-five percent of Americans approve of how Obama's handling his duties in the White House, according to the CNN Poll of Polls, which averaged the six national surveys taken since the president addressed a joint session of Congress on September 9. Thirty-nine percent, on average, disapprove.
President Barack Obama's 55 percent approval rating is on par with those of former presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon during the initial months of their first terms in office, CNN's polling director said."


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:51 am
  

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True and significant Mikey. While it's not been an easy ride, all signs of a positive economic turnaround point to the conclusion that Obama's efforts in that area are slowly but steadily bearing fruit. A fair and humane health care reform will, I believe, add to and enhance our nation's well being even further. I think that anyone who opposes quality and affordable health care for underpriviledged human beings is just down-right mean!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:52 am
  

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In this society that thrives upon instant gratification, having approval ratings anywhere near or above 50% is amazing in and of itself.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:32 am
  

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Approval? Hmm.

http://www.cantrip.org/stupidity.html?seenIEPage=1

It is easy to see Mr. Jones for the rude drunk abuser that he is. The nasty character is Mr. Frederick who is always in public quite charming. Recruiting the enemy of your enemy has the danger that to defeat your enemy, you can become your own enemy.


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