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 Post subject: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:14 am
  

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I got sick of looking at those other two names!

Soooooooooo yesterday I recieved my copy of 32cents in the mail!
Guess what I recieved today!!!!!

My Absentee Ballot from Oregon!

I just sat there, holding it. The lineup for the National Ballot is interesting. Obama and Biden are at the bottom, except for that line that you can write a name of your choice in.

So in the next few days, I'll fill in that little oval, kiss it goodbye then send it home to Oregon!

Guess what! Our thinking persons TV channel the ABC (like the BBC) are going to stream the debate live! It will be on at 11 AM Sat morn our time. So I get to watch it with all of you!!!!!

"It's not the voting that's Democracy; it's the counting." -Tom Stoppard.


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:09 am
  

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Louise wrote: "It's not the voting that's Democracy; it's the counting." -Tom Stoppard.

Uh-oh. I live in Florida!!!


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:41 pm
  

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louise wrote:
Guess what! Our thinking persons TV channel the ABC (like the BBC) are going to stream the debate live! It will be on at 11 AM Sat morn our time. So I get to watch it with all of you!!!!!

I guess not--it just broke that the lily-livered McPain has found a reason to cancel the debate and try to make himself look "above partisan politics." (Where's the old "throw-up" smiley when you need it?)


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:08 pm
  

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In fairness, my understanding is that the McCain camp talked to the Obama camp about postponing the debate due to the looming bailout and financial crisis and votes that may occur this week, and Obama agreed. Might not be a bad thing.

I wanna see the deal made with MAJOR contributions and limitations on the CEO's. No golden parachutes! And if you give them any parachutes, make sure they don't have ripchords!
As for future CEO's for the new goverment subsidized entities, cap their salaries at somethig both realistic and reasonable, like about 5% of what they make now.


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:19 pm
  

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Oooppps. I may have been premature. The Obama camp may not have agreed, and the venue states that the debate will go as planned. Gotta check into this some more.


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:31 pm
  

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you realize mcpain's only interest in postponing the debate and running to washington is that he hopes to look more presidential, jumping into the frey to solve the economic problems of the world... even though he has confessed having a less than strong understanding of our economy and economic issues... (so why would anyone need HIS input??)
I say, have the debate, change the topic to the economy, it's what's on everybodys mind, and give them 13 ounce gloves...
and let palin be the ringside spectator that gets bitch-slapped by the fans for rooting for the wrong corner...
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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:09 pm
  

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What I'm hearing is that Obama called McSame this morning to see about presenting a joint statement on the "crisis". Apparently Obama called him at 8:30 this morning and McSame returned the call at 2:30 this afternoon?? and agreed to a joint statement...then he called Fox News and got before the news cameras to state that he was suspending his campaign to rush back to DC...what a scumbag!

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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:40 pm
  

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I heard (PBS-TV NewsHour) and read (AP wire)
What fitzy was hearing too

From The Nation

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/363980

By John Nichols

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama initiated the sequence of events that led to Republican candidate John McCain's stunning announcement this afternoon that he would suspend his campaign and propose delaying Friday's first debate between the contenders.

While it was Obama who took the lead, McCain pulled a bait and switch stunt in order to try and grab headlines -- and the leadership mantle in a race that is all about who can best guide the country -- for himself.

The Republican did so by leading the Democrat to believe he was willing to work together behind the scenes with Obama to develop a joint response to the current economic crisis, only to have the Republican leap in front of the cameras with a solo announcement.

Here's the scenario as it played out during the course of one of the most tumultuous days in the history of American presidential politics:

Early Wednesday, at 8:30 a.m. EST, Obama called McCain to propose that the two candidates attempt to take a leadership role in responding to the economic crisis. Concerned that no consensus was emerging from negotiations between Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and leaders in Congress, Obama suggested that he and his Republican rival outline shared goals for any bailout of troubled banks and financial-services institutions.

Specifically, Obama proposed that the two author a joint statement of "shared principles and conditions" for a bailout.

McCain responded around 2:30 p.m. EST Wednesday to express his willingness to work with Obama.

Then, at 3 p.m. EST, without alerting Obama or the Democrat's campaign to his intentions, McCain called a press conference to announce that he would stop campaigning in order to return to Washington to focus on the "historic" crisis facing the U.S. economy.

"I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself," McCain announced in New York.

At the same time, McCain urged organizers of Friday's debate at the University of Mississippi in Oxford to postpone the first debate.

In short order, the Bush White House hailed McCain's move, in an apparent attempt to aide a fellow Republican.

As the afternoon progressed, Obama graciously announced that -- despite McCain's behavior -- he was still willing to keep work with the Republican, and that he would go to Washington or anywhere else if it was thought that doing so might help to resolve the crisis.

But the Democrat also suggested that he wanted to debate on Friday.

The Commission on Presidential Debates said it intended to go forward with the scheduled meeting between the candidates at the University of Mississippi.

So where does this leave us?

No matter what happens with the debate, and with the broader discussion about the economy, everyone who is paying attention to the 2008 campaign learned something Wednesday about John McCain.

The man who so frequently denigrates diplomacy apparently has so little respect for the one-on-one relationship that underpin any serious negotiation between powerful figures that he would play political games even in the midst of what he admits is a "historic" crisis.

While McCain was trying to make himself look like a leader today, the Republican contender instead confirmed that he is uniquely unqualified to serve in a position that requires his occupant to win and retain the trust of those with whom he negotiates.

what a scumbag!
fitzy said that too - But I Said It Bigger :wink: and in color


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:41 pm
  

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Hey John you need a ride to the airport :?:


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:45 pm
  

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If McCain can't make it to the debate on Friday, then the vice presidential candidates should show up. That would give the McCain camp a heart attack.....I'll bet that they would rather hold that debate on, say, November 5th!!!


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:30 am
  

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Yep he pulled a swifty alright, another insult to WE THE PEOPLE for him to think we are SO STUPID that we don't realize it's just a stunt. :roll:
I heard it on my way to work and have to admit I used the cone of silence in my old Landcruiser to call him a few choice names!!
On with the debate! See you all there, we can throw popcrorn (or shoes, or whatever takes your fancy) at him!
Please tell me I'll wake up from this nightmare/comic tragedy on Nov 4!


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:13 pm
  

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The debate is on! let's see who can think on thier feet and not just spout prepared gobbledygook.


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:54 pm
  

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I watched way too much CNN today (while playing guitar), and I've been searching for the word for what I was listening to. So thanks Larry! My word for the day is "gobbledygook"!!!


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:58 am
  

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I have a question. There are a lot of McCain signs in my neighborhood. I am just wondering, where do these people get their information? How can anybody seriously support those idiots anymore? How can you walk out in your yard with other prople knowing that you might seriously consider buying the Brooklyn Bridge if even a sophmoric pitch was made?


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 Post subject: Re: OBAMA 2008
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:01 am
  

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Buying the Brooklyn bridge has a degree of insanity to it, to be sure, but at least there IS A BRIDGE! What the McCain people are trying to sell exists only in the dreams of folks who believe that shoot 'em up Sarah is a good public speaker who can think fast on her feet!


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