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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:27 pm
  

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Last week, Barack Obama caused quite a stir when he allowed himself to be photographed in the Oval Office without wearing a suit jacket, ending the Bush tradition of coat-and-tie for the West Wing. The New York Times reports on how Obama made that possible during a colder-than-usual Washington winter. All Obama did was turn up the thermostat to Hawaii hothouse levels:

The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

“He’s from Hawaii, O.K.?” said Mr. Obama’s senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. “He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there.”

Thus did a rule of the George W. Bush administration — coat and tie in the Oval Office at all times — fall by the wayside, only the first of many signs that a more informal culture is growing up in the White House under new management. Mr. Obama promised to bring change to Washington and he has — not just in substance, but in presidential style.

And thus did the Times fall down on the job yet again in the Age of Obama. While candidate Obama talked endlessly of the need for energy conservation and limits on the use of fuels that produce so-called greenhouse gases, President Obama has no trouble heating the White House for himself to greenhouse levels, according to David Axelrod. Did the Times even note the hypocrisy, or at the very least the incongruity, in its report on Obama’s White House? Not at all.

Many people in America, would like to heat their homes to a comfort level where sweaters and coats become unnecessary. However, Obama and the Democrats want to impose ruinous taxes and penalties on energy production and fuel that produces carbon dioxide — a naturally-occurring element — and make that choice economically unbearable for us. In fact, candidate Obama spoke directly to that end in May of this year:

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.

Well, apparently some of us can, and those lucky few do call themselves “leaders”. The rest of us call them hypocrites as we fetch another sweater.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:30 pm
  

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:roll: grasping at straws :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:33 pm
  

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Larry wrote:
:roll: grasping at straws :roll:


Gotta do something to keep warm... just think it's gonna take too many of 'em to make any difference. BTW, anyone wanna debate me on if the above story really is hypocritical of Lord Obama or not?! And you can check your Bush comparisons at the door, thank you very much. Stick to the topic!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:43 pm
  

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Good thing Arlo didn't get elected president. The executive wardrobe might be tie dye T's or Hawaiian shirts with blue jeans. Gads! It's the beginning of the fall of Western civilization!!!! Hell! President Thomas Jefferson used to greet guests dressed in his bathrobe and slippers and feed them macaroni and cheese! Gimme a break!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:05 pm
  

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Dave wrote:






In fact, candidate Obama spoke directly to that end in May of this year:

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.

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The words that seem to strike home the most from the above statement are " At all times". Better a guy in shirtsleeves with a brain than an empty suit!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:11 pm
  

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Yet more examples of his hypocrisy from CNN:

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Unfortunately, we are again asking the president to explain why exactly he announced, with great fanfare, new ethics rules if he had no intention of abiding by them.

The Obama administration is yet again asking for a waiver to its very own rules about hiring lobbyists.

This time, it is the new treasury secretary, Tim Geithner. He wants a former lobbyist for Goldman Sachs to be his top aide at the Treasury Department.

My view is simple: Mr. President, if you want to hire former lobbyists because you think they are the best people to do the job, then hire former lobbyists. Just don't hold a big news conference first to tell us how your administration is going to be so different from previous administrations in that you won't be hiring lobbyists.

Don't make your disdain for lobbyists and your pledges that they won't wield influence in your administration a centerpiece of your campaign.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:15 pm
  

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Dave, I am however glad to see that you have accepted Obama as your Lord. I mean that's some kinda progress! :D

But you make a semi-valid point. I mean if Obama keeps it too warm in the oval office, he's liable to end up with a fried brain like Bush did.

I'm sure in the Rush Limbaugh world, this might be grounds for impeachment, but by some good fortune, that knucklehead has been largely marginalized.

But you have got me to thinking now, I mean do we really want a president that keeps the oval office at 72 degrees, or do we want the old one that might have kept it at 68 or 70 and started unjust, uneeded wars of choice and stuff? I mean I'll have to weigh this back and forth and come up with some kind of value judgement. And just perhaps, if my thinking brings me to a place I don't expect to be, maybe I'll start the "Draft Dubya for a third term" movement and petition. Don't hold your breath though!! DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:23 pm
  

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Yep, we got us a winner... I want some of that shit he's been smoking!!!!

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Wasn’t this supposed to be the start of an era of competence and freedom from conflicts of interest in government? After appointing lobbyists William Lynn and Mark Patterson to positions that they would have lobbied prior to their appointments, Obama has named a financial-service executive that applied for a bailout to be his deputy counsel on economic affairs:

President Barack Obama on Wednesday named a politically connected top executive of a financial services company that’s seeking federal bailout money to be his chief legal counsel on the economy, a move raising ethical concerns with watchdog organizations and casting a shadow on Obama’s campaign theme of change.

In a statement on Wednesday morning, Obama said he appointed Neal Wolin, division president of The Hartford Financial Services Group Inc., to become his deputy White House counsel for economic affairs. That makes Wolin the top legal adviser on economic issues.

The Hartford in mid-November purchased a Sanford, Fla., thrift — Federal Trust Bank — a move that allowed it to seek as much as $3.4 billion in Wall Street bailout money. On Nov. 14, it applied to become a thrift holding company entitled to between $1.1 billion and $3.4 billion in funds under the much-maligned Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP.

Patterson also worked for a bailed-out firm, the massively politically connected Goldman Sachs. Now we get another executive from a politically-connected firm, and not even one that’s successful. If we had to bail out Goldman Sachs and Hartford, it doesn’t exactly speak well of their economic acumen. Why do we keep picking people from firms that couldn’t stand on their own?

Obama has started to worry some of the Hopier-and-Changier crowd with his serial violations of his own ethics rules. This makes the third questionable appointment in nine days, transforming Obama’s violations of at least the spirit of his own ethics rules a pattern and not exceptions. It’s not just the bailout, either. Hartford also has lobbied on insurance regulation policy, pushing hard against the federal control that Obama promised in his campaign. CREW and other watchdogs have become restless, and it’s only the second week of the new administration.

Obama’s ethics policy would require Wolin to recuse himself on both the bailout and on insurance regulation, which makes people wonder what exactly Wolin would do as economic counsel. Clip coupons? Appointing Wolin, Patterson, and Lynn makes a mockery out of Obama’s vaunted ethics “reforms”, and also of his pledge to find the best and brightest to serve in Washington.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:29 pm
  

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You looking for a whole ounce or what? :lol:

It's amusing that the nitpickers will be all over the petty Obama stuff after excusing and even supporting all the major Bush F-ups!

Let's see what happens over time. I mean Bush was the arsonist and Obama is the firefighter at this point. Speaking as an ex-firefighter, it's easier to start them than it is to put them out.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:23 am
  

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What a crock.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:54 am
  

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It seems that not being able, in the spirit of party loyalty, to criticize the last administration's multiple faux pas for these last long eight years has resulted in lots of pent-up rage on the part of some Republicans. Dave obviously is just venting a little of that rage over here on his board. We should be thankful that we now have a President who is under extremely close scrutiny with every move he makes, because of high expectations, instead of one like the former resident of the White House who was a total lost cause.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:10 am
  

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I dunno Dave. Sorry you're not happy. I am seeing change. It seems to be for the good. The Prez having cocktails with the Congress! Not just his guys either. I have something that I lost eight years ago...Hope.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:28 am
  

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I don't mind he's not wearing jacket & tie. He might as well be comfy while he's in there. He's not my lord tho as only Jesus is my Lord. He is our Prez tho. He could however lower the heat a bit. There are some of us out there struggling to pay our heating bills. Arlo would make a great prez. Hawaiian shirts & all... :)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:59 pm
  

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoIXxFSq7og

this is interesting

rush limbaugh and o'reilly don't have a particularly good track record so I say, they ought to shut the f' up! along with the rest of those conservative pundit moron's


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:36 pm
  

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So at least we are all in agreement that Obama is indeed a hypocrite since no one seems to refute that arguement - because logically one can't and not be out of the freakin' mind! Seems like the rainbow and unicorn crowd always enjoys dancing around the topics rather than straight to the point of the matter. Ok, so maybe it's puny stuff - although the Wolin appointment is just fucking beyond logic in my mind... Hey, we had a mayor in DC that smoked crack - why not the Prez!!! And it hasn't been a month yet even... I'm sure bigger disasters are only a matter of time. My guess is they start when and if Gitmo ever shuts down, unless he's really a go-getter!


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