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 Post subject: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:13 pm
  

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Mr. Obama:

I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America collectively or of me personally.

You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America. You are responsible to the citizens of the United States. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.

I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?

Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States? This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. Do you not understand this?

Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia. You don't show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi Arabia. How dare you, sir! How dare you!

You can't find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation because you don't want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a mosque in Turkey. You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves. What's the matter with you?

I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of yourselves, all of you.

You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.

What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't!

Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that's $45 million more than the AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million - not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven't you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we have right now.

I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not caring about what you idiots do. We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up with all of you. I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities. I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.

Sincerely,

Every real American


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:34 pm
  

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Dave, HOW DARE YOU sign that letter for me? I am as real an American as you are, and I respect your right to express your opinions. But the opinions you expressed in that letter are most emphatically NOT mine, and they will not be attributed to me. NOT IN MY NAME!!!!!!!! Dave, NOT IN MY NAME!!! :evil: :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:59 pm
  

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Dave, I'm with nortonkevin on this one. You must have gotten that seditious diatribe straight from Michael Savage, nee Michael Weiner, ex-schoolmate of mine from Jamaica High School and Queens College, now banned in Britain.

Please be aware that your views, however strongly held, are the minority views in this country, although if one spends too much time listening to talk radio, one could be duped into thinking ALL of America holds these views.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:07 pm
  

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Dave wrote:
You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America. You are responsible to the citizens of the United States. You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.


I would think that part of his job IS to appease others; it's called "diplomacy."

Dave wrote:
I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.


Too late, the Bushes have already done that!


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:54 pm
  

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:50 pm
  

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I gotta agree with them, Dave. The last election wasn't a party election. Those numbers only happen when the community that speaks is very large and diverse but in agreement: new leadership for new times. Until the right accepts that, they will be left. No laughtrack.

Look at the map procurement. You know the Internet. Someone wants wants deep tracking but hasn't figured out rate of change. That's dumb. It's also an aging project. Still, who needs census data to the door?

Lawyers. Census data is used to set voting districts and district gerrymandering is as bad in origin and effect as derivatives, and it is how elections have been being won. If we want to keep the elections out of the courts, we have to have a means to validate census counts. The problem with the Census Bureau approach is hiring summer talent for this is like hiring summer talent to distribute phone books. You will get a high input of false reports. See Acorn.

The problem is all the GPS tells you is there is a door at that location. Everything else is in another database. Proving adults in location is a different test.

We need to work the system. The he said she said right left red blue thinking is killing our coherence and wasting our time and money. That said, we need to be able to trust the system and everything we've seen since 1960 has told how easy it is to work a system such that you can never trust it. Maybe we should try something else.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:02 pm
  

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Dave wrote:
Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century? ...

If you read what he said, it is clear that he was talking about the shameful conduct of the executive branch (and even the non-executive VP branch) of our government in the first eight years of the 21st century.

Dave wrote:
This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage. ...

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)

Every man "ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience." - George Washington (Letter to the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789)

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787)

"When a Religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its Professors are obliged to call for help of the Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one." - Benjamin Franklin (from a letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780;)

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error
all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782; from George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel Press, 1983, p. 363.)

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison (Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)

"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?" - John Adams

"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)

"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." - (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797 - signed by President John Adams.)

"As to religion, I hold it to be the indispensable duty of government to protect all conscientious protesters thereof, and I know of no other business government has to do therewith." - Thomas Paine (Common Sense, 1776.)

"That religion, or the duty we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience." - Patrick Henry (Virginia Bill of Rights, June 12, 1776.)

Dave wrote:
Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans. Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi Arabia. ...


Maybe he thought a polite nod was better than what would happen if he stuck out his hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjtfaLtLT7s

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I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You haven't said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn't! ...


I guess it's all in one's perspective; I wish that last July, thanks to Bush/Republican policies and excesses, I had lost 5% of my income instead of 66%. (And it would be nice if the state rules put in by Republicans allowed me to draw unemployment, but they don't.) I'm just grateful I didn't lose 100% (yet) and I'm grateful for what he's trying to do about that for all Americans.

Oh--and I just realized it's not really Dave I'm responding to, after all--it's Daniel Martinez, or whoever unleashed that piece of ... ah ... rhetoric on the Internet:

http://media.www.dailylobo.com/media/storage/paper344/news/2009/04/28/Opinion/Obama.Needs.To.Focus.On.Us.Instead.Of.Bowing.To.Others-3728923.shtml


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:22 pm
  

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Call it apologies, call it reconciliation,call it a strategy to get the world behind us again. Whatever you call it, after 8 years of the worst president in history it's and needed and justified.
No matter how much the Bushies whine, Obama is on his way to making our country more respected here and aboad. As well as adhering to the rule of law and governing with intellect, pragmatism and empathy as opposed to ideaology and a false sense that patriotism means arrogance.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:48 pm
  

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Like I said before Dave, "Not in my Name":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0dy56N5_d8


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:00 pm
  

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Dave, if you feel so strongly about this, why are you posting it here? Print it out, mail it, and sign your own name.

We'll write our own letters, thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:01 pm
  

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Larry wrote:
Call it apologies, call it reconciliation,call it a strategy to get the world behind us again. Whatever you call it, after 8 years of the worst president in history it's and needed and justified.
No matter how much the Bushies whine, Obama is on his way to making our country more respected here and aboad. As well as adhering to the rule of law and governing with intellect, pragmatism and empathy as opposed to ideaology and a false sense that patriotism means arrogance.


I agree 100%!


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:13 pm
  

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The House has passed a bill to freeze the automatic pay raises (in effect since 1989) for 2010 and are working to eliminate the automatic raises starting in 2011. They are actually working to roll back the raise they received this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:12 pm
  

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Secret Weapon Inoculation for National Enslavement flu? ........ vials missing from US Army bio labs? ....... blame the present administration for the last one's screw ups? Obey! Obey!


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:02 am
  

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nortonkevin wrote:
Like I said before Dave, "Not in my Name":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0dy56N5_d8


Love it--thanks, Kevin!

NOT IN MY NAME!


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Mr. President
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:45 am
  

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The problem is that in his quest to get everyone to like us, he is bowing down to the terrorists etc. I can understand him wanting to be diplomatic & getting other countries to like us but he has forgotten 9/11. Hey Wiz, ya oughta run for Prez next time. You'll get my vote...


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