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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:28 pm
  

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Bin Laden has been killed. What does this solve? What happens next?

I have very mixed feelings. I know that now, bin Laden is no longer a threat, but will this prompt new, more aggressive actions by Al Qaida? I fear that is what comes next.

Killing does not make the world a better place. Even though bin Laden was not a good person, do WE have the right to KILL?

Then there is Libya... Gaddafy's son and three grandchildren were killed - Again, I fear that OUR actions will prompt a violent reaction by Gaddafy.

very mixed feelings, indeed.......


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:45 am
  

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Can we now focus on Corporate American Empire, whose fruits produced 911?

http://youtu.be/n7Fzm1hEiDQ

The red in this photo (which doesn't seem to want to enlarge here.) is USA Defense compared to the rest of the World. Both China and Russia are less than or around 90% less the the old US of A.


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:37 am
  

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Bin Laden is all he ever aspired to be. A manifestation of the great Islamic warrior who stood against the dominant evil empire and was martyred by that empire for his deeds ordained by God. In his death, he will live again. It is a story Americans are very familiar with!

It is just a vision at the end of a dead road to me. People have to change the way they feel and perceive the world or we will be stuck on this dead road till the bitter end. It seems to me dead roads are far more tangible than dead bodies. Osama Bin Laden's dead body can keep us going nowhere for a long time. The jubilation of an eye for an eye can be deadened by a beginning. A beginning of a new response of reaction and hatred and martyrdom. Then we become like a wheel on fire rolling down a road. We get stuck in that trap again, and again, and again...etc...etc....and wow!

Will we create a new path, a new road, a new response. I am awfully loaded with doubt!


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:52 am
  

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I fear this may be more of a beginning than and end.


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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:00 pm
  

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"And empire finally, as Thucydides understood, is a disease. As Thucydides wrote, the tyranny that the Athenian empire imposed on others it finally imposed on itself. The disease of empire, according to Thucydides, would finally kill Athenian democracy. And the disease of empire, the disease of nationalism … these of course are mirrored in the anarchic violence of these groups, but one that locks us in a kind of frightening death spiral. So while I certainly fear al-Qaida, I know its intentions. I know how it works. I spent months of my life reconstructing every step Mohamed Atta took. While I don’t in any way minimize their danger, I despair. I despair that we as a country, as Nietzsche understood, have become the monster that we are attempting to fight." -~Chris Hedges

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/chr ... _20110502/


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:29 am
  

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Killing begets killing.


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:14 am
  

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'When will they ever learn/When will they e---ver learn?


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:26 am
  

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I'm glad he's gone and can't harm anyone else. It did have me wondering if the Muslim extremists might try to attack us because of it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:55 am
  

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I need to see the gruesome pictures. la lala la la la la la la


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:39 pm
  

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My emotions are mixed. Although I feel relieved that this chapter is closed I fear that a whole new chapter of more evil is about to begin. I keep hoping that in my lifetime this world will know peace and swear against ever evoking war again. How wonderful this world would be if there was no such thing as hunger, hate or greed. But everyday I see if not experience all three throughout every day. So in closing I wish everyone peace and encourage everyone to help your neighbors and even starngers who are in need. Peace and love wins over hate and greed every time...
-Eric


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:18 am
  

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Obama chooses not to be Hamlet. Bene.

Next? I guess it depends on who. For some, it's fear of getting on planes again. For others, it's finding out why the copter came down hard and had to be blown thus doubling the time of the op. For others, it's about finding a new bogey man. For a few, it's about justice and what we endure to see to it justice prevails. For a perverse few, it is about shifting blame or taking credit.

When the planes hit the towers a friend of mine in Ireland wrote to ask me what I thought the American response would be. I told him we'd mourn, clean up and when we knew who did it, we'd kill them. We have.

Obama hopes not to be Macbeth.

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Act 1 Scene 7: I (Spoken by Macbeth)

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly: if the assassination
Could trammel up the consequence, and catch
With his surcease success; that but this blow
Might be the be-all and the end-all here,
But here, upon this bank and shoal of time,
We'ld jump the life to come. But in these cases
We still have judgment here; that we but teach
Bloody instructions, which, being taught, return
To plague the inventor: this even-handed justice
Commends the ingredients of our poison'd chalice
To our own lips. He's here in double trust;
First, as I am his kinsman and his subject,
Strong both against the deed; then, as his host,
Who should against his murderer shut the door,
Not bear the knife myself. Besides, this Duncan
Hath borne his faculties so meek, hath been
So clear in his great office, that his virtues
Will plead like angels, trumpet-tongued, against
The deep damnation of his taking-off;
And pity, like a naked new-born babe,
Striding the blast, or heaven's cherubim, horsed
Upon the sightless couriers of the air,
Shall blow the horrid deed in every eye,
That tears shall drown the wind. I have no spur
To prick the sides of my intent, but only
Vaulting ambition, which o'erleaps itself
And falls on the other.


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:50 am
  

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I think it will all fade away in time. The sooner the better as far as I am concerned. Hopefully, any relevance will fade as well!


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:00 pm
  

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May he rest in peace. I'll rejoice at no one killed in an illegal war. Shouldn't his body have been given to his family? Crazy Horses body was...

Now can we focus on the enemy whose fruits caused 911? Corporate American Empire. Minds, blood and souls have been boiling in the Arab World (We still don't understand...) since after WW2 we went into the Middle East for "their oil." (What is our oil doing buried under their sand?)

http://youtu.be/n7Fzm1hEiDQ

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Evolut ... 5-430.html

Are these words from Osama (or else where?): "If we could have gotten them to listen to our words, we would not have had to fly planes into their buildings?"


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:37 pm
  

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I just hope the terrorists give up. And peace reigns for all.


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:31 pm
  

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Me too! I hope them terrorists give up and just live with the corporations like good Americans. That will piss Leo off, but what the hell?


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