Unleader regular when from a high yesterday of 1.59 a gallon to 1.52 today, what's with this?

How are the prices where you are?

Went down here, too, about the same amount.

We're currently at 1.749 around here. It's gone up almost 34 cents in the last 2? months. I hope that the voices of the people around the world have been heard today.

Please Lord, No War.<img src="http://www.arlo.net/ubb/smilies/peace.gif" width=16 height=16>

I think gas is 1.59 or so I think. This one Wawa, is cheaper than the others. Gas is cheaper on one side of the street as you first get into town from Jefferson Park cuz that side is considered to be the county side & they don't have to have the reformulated gas. The other side of the stree there is more expensive cuz they have to have the reformulated gas. Hope prices go down soon...

1.73.9 today for regular self-serve, and Bob shopped around for it, I think. Super was around 1.86. I'm glad we don't have to use all that much gas if we don't want to. My son does..no choice. Also, of course, fuel oil prices are very high, which is very hard on a lot of people. Not really easy on anyone, but you know what I mean..

Well, I guess I'll be the one to piss everyone off. What a surprise, huh?

I personally like gas prices high, and I hope they go up. I wish they weren't going up for reasons of war, but rather for an eco-tax. Cheap gas means the proliferation of the destructive auto-culture, more roads, more cars, more pollution.

Were gas more *honestly* priced, people would be forced to consider their lifestyles, car choices, conservation, and public transportation would be taken seriously as it is in Europe. Yes, the poor would be hurt the most, as always, but were I making the rules, it wouldn't be an issue, as we'd have a progressve tax code paying for a REAL social safety net.

If people want to drive SUV's and buy houses 45 miles from their office, thats their right. But let em pay for it. I'll be laughing in my little compact, driving as little as possible as always, and working to promote alternative fuels.
Whatever the argument, America can do so much better with our future policies regarding Energy and Transportation.

Alright, bring on the hate mail

lcj, not hate mail, but i really wish the new left weren't so ready to sacrifice the poor and low income people. They did it by supporting Nader to the point that they did and that kind of thinking does it, too. Until they do rule the world and eliminate poverty, things like high gas prices, and the high fuel oil prices that go with them make difficult lives even more unbearable. I have no problem with the gas guzzler taxes, but things that impact people who can least afford to pay and have little choice in how they go about their lives shouldn't be seen as good things by people who are supposed to be on their side. Tell me the real difference between that and conservatives who take a Darwinian approach to economics and turn a deaf ear to the pain of individuals? Because your cause is better? They say they want a better world, too. The difference used to be that the left cared about individual suffering and not just a big idealistic picture. Or maybe that's just the way I remember it and it never was that way at all. It's depressing in any case.

Well, Pat, like I said, we were dealing with my dream world here. So, if I got my high gas prices, I'd also have the poor covered too. Not one or the other. You know I'm not out to hurt the poor.

All of these issues are related in one way or another. And if we keep abusing our planet, it isn't going to matter one damn bit whose rich or poor. Both will be screwed. That's why the environment is *my* issue of choice. Fix our abuses, create sustainable growth economy and fair trade, and these problems begin to solve each other.

I know, it's a pipe dream under conservative leadership, but like I said, I was just dreamin.

I know you're not out to hurt the poor. I just tend to relate more to the plight of the individual than the environment, if they're at odds. They're both important, of course, but I wish I didn't get that feeling from some of the left today that the long view is all that matters and the day to day travails of people who have to feed their families is less consequential. Anyway, there are other ways to discourage over-consumption of fuel. The thing is that high gas prices affect the price of everything, without bringing any benfits in terms of jobs or prosperity..in fact quite the opposite.

I'm with lcj on this one. Gas is way too cheap in the USA and we waste far too much of it.

Some people, Myself included here, must drive in order to live, we have no public transportation and the nearest food store is five miles away. I am not currently using heating oil but if I were it's $1.89 a gallon and if there were any jobs to be had, most pay $5.50 an hour so gas prices do matter.
My brother is a rural carrier of the mail, he does not get anything extra when gas prices go up, and he must drive a staion wagon in order to carry the amount of mail he has.
There are so many places that are like this, and really the only hope we have is in being able to go somewhere else to work.

When you live on the edge, anything that pushs you just a little can make all the difference in the world.

Like Nathen we have no public transportation here. So it's drive or get nowhere...

Well, in point of fact we as posters on this board, don't control the gas prices, but I do recall that an eco-tax on gas was considered at one point in the 90s. IMHO this kind of thing is one reason why the left can't hold onto what should be its natural constituency - low income working people - and one reason why epithets such as "elitist" tend to resonate with some people. First solve the problems of the people who'd be hardest hit by those things and then address gas consumption, or do it some other way than a regressive tax.

<center><FONT COLOR="#000080">--- Edited 1 times, lastly by pat on Feb 17, 2003 ---</FONT></center>

lcj and Baldwinville, I agree that we squander fossil fuels and I believe it's necessary we change that. I just don't think this will really further that cause.

The rise here so far has been about 50 cents a gallon over prices in the Clinton years That's an extra $7.50 a week for me. The rich won't miss a beat. the middle class may have to forego a lunch out. Poor people won't be able to get to work or may miss meals. Sure, they can take public transportation. But if you still must have a car, and in most places you must, it will cost you more (short-term, out-of-pocket) to take public transportation. Except in most of the country, public trans isn't in place, and it takes about 20 years to put it in place once it's voted in. And it is just not an option in many places, especially in the West.

Early to be doing math here but is around 82 cents a litre,works out to about $2.80 a gallon i believe....Nathen?!?!?

<center><FONT COLOR="#000080">--- Edited 1 times, lastly by sparkydon on Feb 17, 2003 ---</FONT></center>