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 Post subject: I implore you
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:35 am
  

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Please take the hour that it takes to listen to this. You won't be sorry.

http://blip.tv/file/623927


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:35 am
  

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Thanks Gus, that was awesome. Dr. King was a master of putting the loftiest principles of mankinds highest and purest aspirations into some of the most eloquent words ever spoken.


P.S: I'm not sorry; I am humbled.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:08 pm
  

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Thanks... Deja vu all over again. Today we have got to make it work for all right now. Love what adg says, "We are in this until the last man has to stand alone."


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:06 am
  

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Goofus wrote:
Please take the hour that it takes to listen to this. You won't be sorry.

http://blip.tv/file/623927



He seemed to be the beacon of hope for our generation. He only lived for a year after that speech. Sadly, things have gotten pretty mixed up in the years that have followed.

What a wonderful speaker that man was!

Thanks for this, Goofus.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:47 pm
  

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anarchess wrote:
Goofus wrote:
Please take the hour that it takes to listen to this. You won't be sorry.

http://blip.tv/file/623927



He seemed to be the beacon of hope for our generation. He only lived for a year after that speech. Sadly, things have gotten pretty mixed up in the years that have followed.

What a wonderful speaker that man was!

Thanks for this, Goofus.


The thing that really gets to me is that he predicted our future if we continued on the path that we have taken. Look at Egypt. Look at our gutless response.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:22 pm
  

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Thanks Gus


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:24 pm
  

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"The war is but a symptom of a far deeper malady within the American spirit."
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Wors that still ring true today.

Murdered exactly one year to the day later. Random act of violence committed by a lone nut case? So many people hated him so much. People with a lot to lose.

I was too young to really understand then, so thanks for the refresher.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:35 am
  

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OWS-Territory, is going to be what the people make it. I hope we can focus on things that will help all 7 Billion Humans, flying through space on Beautiful Mother Earth.

Since we need sound money, which we have never had, lets gt out of the Fed. The best way I've hard to do that, is to follow what North Dakota has been doing fine with for 90 years, with its State Bank. Other States are studying how to do it.

If we don't fix Healthcare, the price will double in 10 years, probably with less care. Vermont's and Montana's Single Payer could very well be worth other States checking out.

And need we mention that ending the wars is a must. Why the hell not close all over seas Military Bases, and put the Vets, and others to work rebuilding this Broken Promised Land?

But on other thing: Communities should study how to set up the Worker Ownership of the Mondragon Cooperative, of the Basque in Spain. There is an Evergreen Cooperative in Cleveland, and Richmond California, is putting people to work by starting smaller Cooperatives. Its a better way to work. Don't we all want that?

http://www.care2.com/causes/ows-is-the- ... video.html

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:16 pm
  

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Thanks for the paine quote leo.

And Goofus for the MLK speech. The JFK quote let me follow it back to wiki and this on non-violent revolution...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
As it relates to democracy
One theory of democracy is that its main purpose is to allow peaceful revolutions. The idea is that majorities voting in elections approximate the result of a coup. In 1962, John F. Kennedy famously said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."[3]

This theory is rebutted by Murray Rothbard who points out that to more closely approximate such results, it would be necessary to disenfranchise the elderly, women, and those who are otherwise at a physical disadvantage in combat, and to give trained soldiers multiple votes. He also says that such theory, if carried to its logical conclusion, would require making voting more difficult (e.g. by spacing polling places further apart) and eliminating secret ballots, as those who would be deterred by inconvenience or persecution for revealing their support for a candidate would be unlikely to fight for him.

George Lakey in his 1973 book [1] and in his 1976 "A Manifesto for Nonviolent Revolution", laid out a five stage strategy for nonviolent revolution. Stage 1 Cultural Preparation or "Conscientization": Education, training and consciousness raising of why their is a need for a nonviolent revolution and how to conduct a nonviolent revolution. Stage 2.Building Organizations: As training, education and consciousness raising continues, the need to form organizations. Affinity groups or nonviolent revolutionary groups are organized to provide support,maintain nonviolent discipline, organize and train other people into similar affinity groups and networks. Stage 3. Confrontation Organized and sustained campaigns of picketing, strikes, sit-ins, marches, boycotts, die-ins, blockades to disrupt business as usual in institutions and government. By putting ones body on the line nonviolently the rising movement stops the normal gears of government and business. Stage 4. Mass Non Cooperation: Similar affinity groups and networks of affinity groups around the country and world, engage in similar actions to disrupt business as usual. Stage 5. Developing Parallel Institutions to take over functions and services of government and commerce. In order to create a new society without violence, oppression, environmental destruction, discrimination and one that is environmentally sustainable, nonviolent, democratic, equatable tolerant and fair, alternative organizations and structures including businesses must be created to provide the needed services and goods that citizens of a society need.
(My note: crap we skipped a few steps and may need to complete them soon)
Gene Sharp, who many in the Arab Spring revolutions were influenced by has documented and described over 198 different methods of nonviolent action that nonviolent revolutionary's might use in struggle. No government or institution can rule without the consent of the governed or oppressed. That is the source of nonviolent power. Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. knew that as well.


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 Post subject: Re: I implore you
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:30 pm
  

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We all want to change the world.

What we don't realize is that we are the only ones who can...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:09 am
  

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Goofus wrote:
We all want to change the world.

What we don't realize is that we are the only ones who can...



Because change comes from within........before it translates to the external


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:10 am
  

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If you could put what you want changed into one sentence what would you say?

I want balanced rights for input to our leaders without regard to class, income, or cash contributions put in the constitution.


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 Post subject: Re: I implore you
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:31 pm
  

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I want better leaders.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:02 am
  

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Tavis Smiley interview fits here and in occupy.

http://www.salon.com/topic/american_spring/


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 Post subject: Re: I implore you
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:27 am
  

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I wanted to serve roast but all I had was hamburger. Suddenly I had a flash of genius... I put the hamburger in the oven and set the controls for roast. It still came out hamburger, much to my disappointment.

GOOD NIGHT DEAR DIARY. This has been a very exciting week! I am eager for tomorrow to come so I can try out a new recipe . If I can talk him into buying a bigger oven, I would like to surprise him with a chocolate moose.

Well, it was in my paste. Hate to let paste go to waist.


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