I always liked Robertson so it was sad to see him having done this. I'm afraid it might've gotten folks who didn't like him to turn against him more. I don't know much about Chavez & what he's done so can't really comment on that. I feel sorry for Dub cuz so many folks seem to hate him. I figure like him or not he needs prayer as he's the Prez & I'm sure faces alot of difficult decisions to make each day. & The troops could use prayers too as they are out there like it or not in the line of fire...

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I don't know much about Chavez & what he's done so can't really comment on that. ..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Cheryl, what Chavez has done is to be elected president of his country in a democratic election and then had the audacity to want his country's oil profits to benefit the people of his country. On top of that, he's trying to legalize land ownership by people rather than corporations. Of course they want to kill him.

The funny thing is, Pat Robertson may have done Chavez a favor. Now how could they dare assasinate him? And if anyone else does, the world will always believe the U.S. did it.

Thanks for the info. I knew he had done something to upset folks but couldn't remember exactly what...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cheryl Harrell:

Thanks for the info. I knew he had done something to upset folks but couldn't remember exactly what...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cheryl, why would it upset folks, if the president of another country wants to use that country's own resources to help ALL the people of that country (instead of just the fatcat corporate types). Why would it upset folks, if he wants the PEOPLE of his country to own land, rather than allowing the most valuable land to be owned by big corporations (many of which are, to them, foreign companies)? Why should it upset folks that this person was ELECTED to office by the PEOPLE of that country who want him to be their president?

Viva Chavez!!!

Que the "Jeapordy" theme in the background! Oye!

Hey Now, That is our oil! That is part of our empire! What are you guys, communist?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PSBeaty:

Hey Now, That is our oil! That is part of our empire! What are you guys, communist?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes.

Well I never@#$%^&*&

Do you know you can go to hell for that! It is unAmerican, Just unAmerican to say something like that! We shut the door on communists in this country along time ago!!! Neo Nazi's yes! Communists no! And that is all I have to say about that!!!!

No use lockin' the door on us! We pinko Commies usually sneak in through the bathroom window and such. Bwaaahhaaahhaaaa!

From Iris DeMent's 1996 recording, <u>Wasteland Of The Free</u>:

<B>"Living in the wasteland of the free...

We got preachers dealing in politics and diamond mines
and their speech is growing increasingly unkind
They say they are Christ's disciples
but they don't look like Jesus to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free..."

"Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free..."</B>

I came across this article online about grannies protesting the war & figured you guys would be interested:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=9&u=/ap/20050827/ap_on_re_us/raging_grannies_3

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cheryl Harrell:
grannies protesting the war & figured you guys would be interested:
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I liked it / Thanks

Thanks, Cheryl. I sent it to my mother-in-law. It sounds like something she'd do! Uh, oh! Gads! What have I done!?!?!

VIVA CHAVEZ!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Published on Friday, September 16, 2005 by the Associated Press
Chavez Takes Bush to Task on World Stage Over War in Iraq
by Kim Gamel

UNITED NATIONS - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took President Bush to task in front of a global summit for waging war in Iraq without U.N. consent and won rousing applause for his critique.

The leftist leader told a U.N. summit on Thursday that fighting the war without U.N. authorization showed Washington did not respect the world body. He recommended moving U.N. headquarters to a country that has more regard for the organization.

"There were never weapons of mass destruction but Iraq was bombed, and over U.N. objections, (it was) occupied and continues being occupied," Chavez said. Bush alleged that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction but none have been found, shattering one of his main arguments for going to war.

"That's why we propose to this assembly that the United Nations leave this country, which is not respectful of the very resolutions of this assembly," Chavez said.

Chavez, a close ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, suggested moving U.N. headquarters New York to an international city "outside the sovereignty of any state" and said some have mentioned Jerusalem as one possibility.

But the Venezuelan leader said the new headquarters has to be in the South, home to most developing countries.

Bush was not in the audience when Chavez spoke to the world representatives. But the U.S. president did address the summit's the opening session on Wednesday morning, then returned to Washington later that day.

World leaders at the summit had been asked to speak for five minutes but Chavez ran long and when the presiding diplomat passed him a note saying his time was up, he threw it on the floor. He said if Bush could speak for 20 minutes, so could he.

When he finally stopped, he got what observers said was the loudest applause of the summit.

Relations between Chavez and Washington have become increasingly strained, though the United States remains the top buyer of Venezuelan oil.

Chavez repeatedly has accused the U.S. government of backing plots against him, and recently alleged Washington was preparing to invade his country.

American religious broadcaster Pat Robertson recently suggested the United States assassinate Chavez because he poses a threat. Chavez responded that Robertson had clearly "expressed the wish of the elite that govern the United States." Robertson has since apologized.

U.S. officials strongly deny the Venezuelan leader's claims but have expressed concerns about the health of the country's democracy under Chavez, who was first elected in 1998 pledging a social "revolution" for the poor majority.

The two leaders have clashed over a host of other issues as well.

Bush criticized Venezuela's government earlier Thursday, saying the South American nation had "failed demonstrably" to make a concerted effort to block shipments of illicit narcotics to the United States and Europe last year.

Venezuela could have been subjected to a cutoff of U.S. assistance, but Bush decided to waive the provision because of national security interests.

In early August, Chavez accused the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration of using its agents in Venezuela for espionage, and said Venezuela was suspending cooperation with the agency. The Bush administration denied the espionage charge.

Chavez, whose country is the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, also warned the world is facing an unprecedented energy crisis.

He told reporters later the crisis will keep growing, "not because we the producers want it but because we are running out of oil."

Chavez singled out the United States as the most wasteful country, saying he was shocked when a quarter of all the cars he counted Thursday morning on New York streets had one person in them.

"That's crazy, one person with a huge car ... that is using up gas and polluting the atmosphere," he said at a news conference. "The world cannot tolerate this model of development called the American way of life."

In a form of energy diplomacy, Chavez has extended a preferential oil trade deal called PetroCaribe to 13 Caribbean countries in what he says is part of a plan to challenge U.S. economic domination of the region.

Under the plan, Venezuela will soon sell up to 190,000 barrels of fuel a day to countries from Jamaica to St. Lucia, offering favorable financing while shipping fuel directly to reduce costs. It is expected to help those countries save millions of dollars.

Associated Press writer Ian James in Caracas, Venezuela, contributed to this report.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press
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This clown is like that bunny for the battery commercial - he goes on and on and on -- I mean read what this idiot says in a world where we know there is some crack pot that will more than gladly strike disaster with a crack pot statement like this to set them off --
this man is a danger to the rural Pennsylvania town - America & the world !!
Just like the President that he supports !!


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson warned residents of a rural Pennsylvania town Thursday that disaster may strike there because they "voted God out of your city" by ousting school board members who favored teaching intelligent design.
http://start.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20051110/4372d3d0_3ca6_1552620051110-1435949273

I have to sort of agree with him on part of this. They shouldn't have taken God outta the schools or ousted the school board. I like Robertson but he does get a little too vocal in expressing himself at times...