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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:11 pm
  

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I'd say Dubya, Dick & Company and most our politicos (on most all sides) are all doing a bang up job of gettin` there!

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/24/708/


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:29 pm
  

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Tell me it can't happen here. Though I wouldn't put it past them, knowing the truth they believe in, which are out-dated words.
Somehow, I don't see the Police or Military being on the govs. side, if the shit ever does hit the fan.
But it was warned of, about 2000 years ago.
We must wait out dubya's term, while organizing for the next term.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:39 pm
  

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whatever will wake folks up??...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:47 pm
  

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Number 11 on the list may be stealing and/or rigging elections.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:50 pm
  

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leoburg wrote:
Tell me it can't happen here. Though I wouldn't put it past them, knowing the truth they believe in, which are out-dated words.
Somehow, I don't see the Police or Military being on the govs. side, if the shit ever does hit the fan.
But it was warned of, about 2000 years ago.
We must wait out dubya's term, while organizing for the next term.


"It can't happen here" a line from the Mothers of Invention...Were Only in It for The Money....where maestro zappa describes in the inner cover hidden among the mock up sgt pepper parody how Raygun the CA governor wanted to place all the hippies in the former japanese prisoner of war camps. Conspiracy theories aside...Kennedy challenged the military and the mafia simutaneously. The Trilateral Commision is populated by both sides of the isle. How deep does it go ? Go to Youtube and search CIA...wierd stuff. Perhaps the illuminati is not a creation of Dan Brown's and Robert Anton Wilson's imaginations. A small number of people compared to the population of the planet control the majority of the money, regardless of politifcal orientation (the commuist chinese have no problem with our money and send us poisened toothpaste and kill our pets) Capitalism keeps money at the center of the power under the guise of free enterprise. Ask someone in the third world who works for 25 cents a day to make stuff that sells here for $19.99 at Walmart what capitalist facism is all about.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:08 pm
  

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So free interprise isn't really free too?


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#12 Stay The Course

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:07 pm
  

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maylandtoo,
Is it true that anything goes in Ohio?
This is may land 2. Though it doesn't seem to offer the freemale companionship I had dreamt of.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:03 pm
  

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leoburg wrote:
So free interprise isn't really free too?


It's the golden rule. He who has the gold rules. Everyone else works for a living. My mother cried when Nixon removed wage and price control in his first administration. Now I know why. Why under the guise of "free enterprise" is it acceptable for Mobil oil to make 1,000,000.00 every ten seconds ? Because supply and demand says so ? Why are we in bed with the Chinese who sell us stuff that costs them pennies made by political prisoners in forced labor situations ? The capitalist giant and the communist giant and in a symbiotic dance to put profits in the pockets of each. The politicians on each side exist to maintain the status quo. I wouldn't call it free enterprise anymore, I would just call it by what it is,....greed. Is this nihilistic, perhaps....... but reality also.....everyone needs to sing "Alice's Restaurant" alot louder !!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:28 pm
  

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Ya, I guess I'm going to have to Play Alice on those cool new juke boxes that have a gazilion songs on them.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:54 pm
  

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I know...those kinds are made in china too (or malaysia/indonesia...they have a great human rights record). I own one that plays only 500 songs and it's loaded with arlo from itunes. I like to crank the Multi Colored Rainbow Roach Affair while driving though town with my brand new Arlo Guthrie bumper sticker on the back of the Jeep. Come to think of it I suppose my Jeep is the only thing I own made in the USA, except for my grandmother's rolling pin and a few tools grandpa made at Pratt and Whitney Aircraft, some old furniture, etc...I bought my wife a bedroom set for her 40th a few years back...got the pine one, but it is made in Virginia rather than the Cherry one made in Malaysia on principle. Somehow it made a difference to give my 1500.00 to a guy in Virginia rather than give 1450.00 to a middle man and 50.00 to the guy in Malaysia. But those juke boxes and many other things you can't buy made here.....globalization of capitalism. I guess my point is we are already a capitlaist fascist state. I mean we have great many more freedoms than other places in the world (I can move anywhere I want, change my name be whoever etc....that's how the terrorists penetrated us,,...using our own freedoms...you can't do that in Saudi Arabia, etc) but when it comes to money the top 1-10% call the shots and Joe Union has very little say, even organized (my union can't accomplish diddly though I still support their efforts....I'm still better off than if they weren't in my corner). So the "patriot actors" whittle away at what's left (of Freedom), ...even my senator Ted (I'll drive off that bridge when I get to it) supports a National ID card...which makes my skin crawl just out of principle. As Ben Franklin said "those who give up liberty for security end up with neither" so I guess these days I would support a melding of Vermont and New Hampshire..........The Libertatian Socialist Party.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:11 pm
  

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I see a future of this Land putting those Electricity cells on our roofs, to plug our electric cars into. We are all ready exporting those roof cells to Japan and Europe. It takes 8-10 months to get them. But Detroit and DC are why behind the times. Wouldn't those 2 tech stuff give this Land a purpose? Let the terrorist have the middle east oil. We won't be there or need them for a 3,4 or 5 fold solution.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:57 pm
  

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Amen Leo........if big money would rally behind an effort like solar electricity or hydrogen fuel cells and see the big picture rather than immediate profits our Land would return to a place it was. So we export the newest technology because the seven sisters of oil are amerikan based companies, symbiotic to the supply (middle east) who we abuse through policy (which fuels Jihad sentiment) and even make war on to protect the supply in the national interest (which pours gas on the fire). With "w" and Dick being oil men why are would anyone be surprised that we are where we are. It seems that the "national interest" justifies us to do almost anything abroad. I foresee history recording these times as being the most imperialist in US history.


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