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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:24 pm
  

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Arnie wrote:
well i know for a fact that i'll be contemplating my bellybutton this weekend...

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For me, this is a deeper thing than it once was. Not the process or nuthin', just the bellybutton itself.

Stir the pot you say? In the words of another misguided fundamentlist...." Bring 'em on!"


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:25 pm
  

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Larry wrote:
Just look to the heavens, or, if you are inside, just stick your hands in your back pockets. :)


Careful when you stick your hands in your back pockets... you may squoosh a blunderite or two that was 'traveling along' to an Arlo show!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:26 pm
  

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PSBeaty wrote:
Larry wrote:
Just look to the heavens, or, if you are inside, just stick your hands in your back pockets. :)


I hope you don't expect a "donation" for those words of wisdom!

Either way I am afraid I might find a full moon!


Dude, you're the one that wanted a guru! no charge by the way, it's my free trial offer.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:29 pm
  

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A common but perhaps not exclusive trait of fundamentlists is intolerance for any view other than thier own. It's clear to me that's where you are Jim.


It's not that I am "intolerante" Larry. I care about people and want to shine a light on the false gods that lead people down a dark path.

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As for Arlo preaching some world religion, that's nonsense. Read the posts here that dispell your assumption.In fact, you may be guilty of what you are falsely accusing Arlo of.


I'm not "accusing" Arlo, I am simply stateing that Arlo is pushing a "One World" view with his religious (yes religious) organization he started. You may not believe he is pushing a "religion" but that doesn't make is less so. If you put 20 different things in the stew, it's still stew.

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Being a fundamentlist does not make you a bad person provided you don't act on your beliefs concerning the rights and beliefs of others.


I don't know where you are comming from with this statement Larry. Arlo and Melanie can beleve what they want (sorry to be speeking of you in the third person Arlo) and don't have to worry about my flying an airplaine into them. I don't want them dead, just saved. Can you imagine heaven without them?

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I'd submit that fundamentlists of polar opposite views are more like each other than they are like other people with less fundamentlist views.(Jerry Falwell and Osama Bin Laden are more like each other than they are like me.)
History proves this. Many religious fundamentlists have been the worlds most prolific terrorists, from the medieval crusades to 9/11 and much inbetween and since.

I agree, one believes (Osama) in death to the Jews and Christians and the other (Jerry) is just out in left field still looking for the ball.

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I'm gunna go out on a real limb here, forgive me if you find it offensive or wrong, but my intentions are honorable.Comment or correct me at your will.
I've known people and friends that have been helped through a crisis or addiction through religious interdiction, mostly through Christian beliefs and Jesus. Many of them come out the other side with the born again thing going on, and sound much the same as you did in your posts. I'm assuming by reading between the lines, you may be in this camp.


The only camp I am in is the camp that worships Jesus and believes He is a real and present God that loves us and wants the best for us. Relgion sux. I try to stay away from organized religion of ANY kind.

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In any event, A wise man once said" Religions are like fingers pointing at the moon. People spend too much time argueing about who's finger to look at, and not enough time gazing at the moon".
I'll ignore the fingers, and gaze at the moon.


There are many moons, which one shines the brightest Jerry? That's the one I want to look at.
Peace,
Jim

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:38 pm
  

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TarBabyJim wrote:
Larry wrote:
Being a fundamentlist does not make you a bad person provided you don't act on your beliefs concerning the rights and beliefs of others.


I don't know where you are comming from with this statement Larry. Arlo and Melanie can beleve what they want (sorry to be speeking of you in the third person Arlo) and don't have to worry about my flying an airplaine into them. I don't want them dead, just saved. Can you imagine heaven without them?


Save them all you want, provided you truly believe that it's your business to "save" them. But I do need to ask you... "save them" from what? You? Themselves? Others? Maybe they don't want to be "saved." Maybe they have their own beliefs about what being saved is and isn't. And heaven without Arlo? Come now, do you really believe that could ever happen?

Just because YOU believe that God would "punish" someone for not believing in Him the way YOU believe, doesn't mean Arlo believes that, or that most of us here believe that.

You have the RIGHT to your beliefs, but please go save those who need AND want saving.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:46 pm
  

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Larry wrote:
Dude, you're the one that wanted a guru! no charge by the way, it's my free trial offer.


OK Larry, relax...your getting as fired up as Jimmy...maybe we can do some breathing excercises...Jim, you want to join in...it seems somebody might have pissed in your oatmeal this morning?


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TarBabyJim wrote:

It's not that I am "intolerante" Larry. I care about people and want to shine a light on the false gods that lead people down a dark path.



But the false gods are the best ones....they have alll the fun!!! Those serious Gods they are always all jealous and pissy... but the false gods, they don't give a shit....I WANT MORE OF THE FALSE GODS>>>I WANT MORE OF THE FALSE GODS>>>>!!!

Oh by the way I am the one who thinks Jesus Christ is a dangerous delusion, so why don't you leave Arlo and everybody else alone and hate me! I am rather insignificant and it really does not matter to me!


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the weirdest day in an expectant mother's odyssey is when your bellybutton pops out


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Jim,I think some of your perceptions are a tad skewed.

Altough Arlo may point out that we are in fact "One world", he does not push anything close to a one world religion. He often mentions various traditions. This is tolerance in action. I would submit that your spinning this into something else is a misperception at best and intolerant at worst.
And what's wrong with stew?
When we draw distinctions in absolutes, we breed hatred and terrorists.

Who is to say which Gods are false?
Gods are believed in, but they are not known.
Faith is not knowledge.
I can follow my god without disrespecting yours, and I do.

It's Ironic that we are using the moon as a metaphor for God when the moon is also the root origin of the word "lunacy". People get crazy over religion.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:56 pm
  

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Diane mc wrote:
the weirdest day in an expectant mother's odyssey is when your bellybutton pops out


Frank Perdue put one of those things on the oven stuffer roaster so you know when they are done too. Does it just pop out,or does it chime too?


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i've decided tarbaby is nothin' more than a fun-da-mental-ist missionary, who's been blinded by the light, and now sees many moons passing before his eyes...


and now i'll be thinkin' all weekend of absolutely nuthin', except pregnant ladies popped belly buttons!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:02 pm
  

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I do need to ask you... "save them" from what? You? Themselves? Others? Maybe they don't want to be "saved." Maybe they have their own beliefs about what being saved is and isn't.


Saved from a world of darkness that blinds the minds of willing men.

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And heaven without Arlo? Come now, do you really believe that could ever happen?


I don't know, that is yet to be seen. It's not up to me.

Terrie wrote:
Just because YOU believe that God would "punish" someone for not believing in Him the way YOU believe, doesn't mean Arlo believes that, or that most of us here believe that.


You are trying to put word in my mouth that I didn't say. If anyone rejects a real God to worship a bowl of soup, it's thier business, not mine. I can still try to offer them the bread of life, can't I?


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You have the RIGHT to your beliefs, but please go save those who need AND want saving.


Sometimes children don't know they NEED to be saved. Should we let them fall over a cliff just because we think it might stifel thier cretive endevors to tell them to "WATCH OUT(!)" ?


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I was raised Christian. I think when Jesus comes back, his first job may be to save us from fundamentlists. I don't know this to be true, but I may beleive it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:17 pm
  

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save us from fundamentlists.


Save us from the cults.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:20 pm
  

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TarBabyJim wrote:
Larry wrote:
save us from fundamentlists.


Save us from the cults.



And just how would he make a distinction?

Your fundamentlism is a religion, and the next guy's is a cult. That's kinda how it works, isn't it?


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