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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:23 pm
  

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Ok, I'm not one to get all up in arms about all the latest consipracy theories as I think that while there may be a shred of truth in most of them - a lot of it is just plain rubbish and designed to panic people. However, this article from Canada Free Press is quite alarming. Frankly, I'm of the opinion that the government needs to STAY THE HELL OUT OF OUR PRIVATE LIVES! Unfortunantly, it looks like Big Brother may be here... I actually had no idea this was even happening until my mom mentioned it and that they had been by their house to do this "GPS painting" and they only provided literature because my dad caught them doing it. Ok, now this article definantly has some serious spin on it - but when you get right down to it there are some very alarming questions that aren't being answered and some points that are worth noting.

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Obama and ACORN GPS Marking EVERY Front Door in America?

By JB Williams Wednesday, April 29, 2009

http://canadafreepress.com/

Republican Senator Judd Gregg was Obama’s first choice for the Secretary of Commerce post, and Gregg was actually considering joining the Obama team, until he found out that control of the US Census was being stripped from the Commerce Department and placed under the direct control of White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel.

Then, the same week that Americans learned that they were “domestic terrorists”—at least according to Obama’s new DHS (Department of Homeland Security),—if they own a bible, a pocket Constitution or guns, and still believe in Life, Liberty and Freedom, - they also learned that Obama’s Census Bureau had hired thousands of new temporary employees, equipped each with a handheld GPS computer and sent them out to mark GPS coordinates for every residential front door in America.

Oddly, it was this same period that news was breaking of an international flu pandemic, suspected of being a weaponized strain of the virus never before seen, - and that Obama’s team still sees no need to close the US-Mexican border, despite the cross continental spread of a deadly illness now claiming American lives.

Now, if any one of these events happened alone, one might not get too excited. But when a string of such events happen all at once, one begins to question the string of freedom and life threatening coincidences…

I can’t resist the urge to question the authority and purpose behind such a BIG BROTHER initiative, when the official Census itself is not due to be taken until 2010…

No imagination is required to think up a whole laundry list of evil that could be done with a nationwide GPS grid of coordinate’s markers painted on every private home across the country. But I was having trouble thinking up one good reason for it, even one legitimate use that would justify what must be a very expensive undertaking.

According to one of the Census workers, who spoke with me on condition of anonymity, they must GPS mark the coordinates “within 40 ft of every front door” in America and they are supposed to complete that mission nation wide, within 90 days, by the end of July 2009.

The workers were not told why they were GPS marking every front door. But a supervisor is sent out to follow them door-to-door, to make certain that no door is left unmarked. Every door will be marked by one employee, and then checked by a follow-up supervisor.
So, I had to ask, why?

Why does the Obama administration need or want the latitude and longitude coordinates for every home in America? Why the rush to GPS paint every home in the next 90 days? Why must the marker be within 40 ft of every front door? For what possible purpose does the Fed need GPS coordinates for every home, and under what authority do they have the right? Census workers, whom I asked, had the same holy-crap look on their faces that I had by then…

ACORN signed on as a national partner with the U.S. Census Bureau in February 2009 to assist with the recruitment of the 1.4 million temporary workers needed to go door-to-door to count every person in the United States — currently believed to be more than 306 million people. But the count doesn’t take place until 2010… This is April 2009.

Obama’s interest in an ACORN controlled 2010 Census, for the purpose of redistricting to the advantage of Democrats before the 2010 mid-term elections, comes as NO shock from a regime known for their heavy handed Rules for Radicals political strategies. But what does this have to do with GPS marking every home in the country?

The 2% of Americans, who have served military duty at some point in life, are very familiar with the most common use of GPS target painting. The other 98% of Americans might want to pick up a book on the subject, such as The Precision Revolution: GPS and the Future of Aerial Warfare …
Their Authority?

RightSoup.com has just about the only online report available on the matter, and they report, “Why does the government (and ACORN) need to have the GPS coordinates of your FRONT DOOR? Your house is probably on Google Maps already. But the front door? Sounds like a jackboot convenience to me. This is a developing story, and several reports of those who have already been visited by the GPS squad can be found in this forum thread.”

If you challenge Census Bureau employees about the GPS marking of your private residence, you will be handed a preprinted explanation referring you to Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2, which explains the penalties for refusing to provide names and statistics of occupants when asked for by a census taker. This only applies when they are taking a census, (which will not be taken until next year), and the penalty for refusing to answer questions for a census is up to a $500 fine.

However, since the actual Census is not due to be taken until 2010, nobody is asking for any information today. They are only GPS marking your front door today, and Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2 provides the Fed NO authority to GPS paint your front door.

Best I can tell, the Fed has NO authority whatsoever, to paint the front door of every private residence in America. Still, that is exactly what they are doing. Now, the trillion dollar question is, why?
A State of Emergency

From Wikipedia - The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (such as states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

In short, the statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard operating under federal authority, from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States.

As members of the military are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, a federal order to do the exact opposite, and take aim at American citizens, would be a clear violation of the US Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, unless…

US Military personnel are trained to follow orders. But they are also obligated to refuse any order deemed “unlawful.” In order to make such an order appear “lawful,” the federal government would first have to declare a national “state of emergency,” such as in the case of an international pandemic, which can be demonstrated to threaten the health and well-being of American citizens.

Following a state of emergency declaration, a federal order for Martial Law would be expected, to allegedly provide law enforcement and security for citizens. This type of scenario can be followed by a presidential order to quarantine, disarm and contain American citizens in the name of national security, all of it, having the appearance of being “lawful.”

Is this what is happening?
Connecting the Dots

Alone, individual events look concerning, but not conspiratorial. What about when you place the pieces of the puzzle together and take a look at the entire picture developing?

Under this “theory,” how does the GPS marking of every private residence in the nation fit into the picture?

I wish I knew… but I don’t!

What I do know is this… Coincidences of this number and magnitude don’t happen. They certainly do not happen all at the same time, within hours or days of each other, out of the wild blue tin-foil hat heaven…

I also know that people had better start asking the right people the right questions and demanding answers fast. Begin with asking the mainstream press why there has been no public notification of the federal governments GPS marking your front door?

Then, I suggest contacting your local Census Bureau office immediately, and demanding an explanation as well as advice as to what law gives them the right to GPS paint every front door in America?

I’d also recommend sending a copy of this column to your state and federal representative, demanding that they put a stop to it or explain why it’s necessary, and what law gives them the right?

Unfortunately, we live in a moment of history when real events are much stranger than nutty conspiracy theories. The people have every right to know what is happening. But unless you demand to know, nobody’s talking!

Bill Clinton sold US nuclear technology to Red China for a mere $300,000 in campaign contributions. The event landed Chinese bagman Johnny Chung in prison, but put Hillary Clinton in the US Senate, and now at the helm of the US State Department.

Highly secured government servers are hacked daily. Soon, hackers will be able to grab a nation wide GPS grid map, marking the front door of every home in America.

How much is a GPS grid of every American household worth to the enemies of America, both foreign and domestic? I’d estimate, PRICELESS!

There is a foul odor resonating from the current regime in Washington DC and most Americans can smell it. Can most Americans gather the strength to do something about it?


I realize most of you will completely dismiss this - especially coming from a posting by me... But let me remind you of a poem by Pastor Martin Niemöller about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.

"When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me."


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:32 pm
  

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Dave.......April fools day was LAST month!! :shock: :D


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:40 pm
  

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As expected... Arlo mentions that the new flu is most likely man made and no one says a thing. I bring up the fact that the government is GPS painting EVERY front door in America (and isn't saying a thing about this) and a joke is made. Gotta love it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:51 pm
  

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As long as they're "painting," I hope they do my PA house's front door in red!


Dave wrote:
As expected... Arlo mentions that the new flu is most likely man made and no one says a thing. I bring up the fact that the government is GPS painting EVERY front door in America (and isn't saying a thing about this) and a joke is made. Gotta love it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:06 pm
  

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Dave wrote:
As expected... Arlo mentions that the new flu is most likely man made and no one says a thing. I bring up the fact that the government is GPS painting EVERY front door in America (and isn't saying a thing about this) and a joke is made. Gotta love it.



I'm just not sure I believe it!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:07 pm
  

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Hell, Google has already done that! I just Googled my address and found out that I have three bedrooms and one bath!


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:26 pm
  

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As I had lost my job, I was offered a Census Bureau job for that kind of work last fall ... let's see ... who was president then???


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:12 pm
  

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Hmmm...it wasn't Obama. Or a Democrat.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:01 pm
  

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As the article says... Google already has this kind of info. WHY is the government going and doing it again - specifically targeting the front door?! Why are they not telling people they are doing this?! Oh, and yeah, it does sound outrageous... but like I said... My folks caught them:

"Evidently they did ours several weeks ago. Dad caught the guy in the driveway when he came back from somewhere. He couldn't figure out where our front door was, he told Dad "you don't have any walkway to it." He left Dad with some literature. Dad said it was all gobbledygook and he couldn't make heads or tails of it so he threw it away. And evidently they only produce the literature if you catch them at it. They aren't leaving something at every address."

And Ceashel, when you were offered that work, did it include taking down the GPS coordinates of a very specific part of the house?! Were GPS locations taken at all?! And frankly I think the Bush administration invaded our privacy way too much, but this smells way worse than that!

And Terrie... Yes, I do believe they DO have RED laser targeting systems... It's the orange glow that comes after that is not quite as pretty.

How long is it gonna take before we have weekend warriors roaming the streets and we start to look like a third world country. Frankly, if you ask me, France and Australia are starting to look pretty damn good to me.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:12 pm
  

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They aren't being particularly secretive about any of this and I don't (again personally) find it particularly worrying that they are starting to prepare for the 2010 Census in 2009 -- their PR on it is right up there on their website:

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www ... 13441.html

They're using GPS instead of the paper maps they used to use, as far as I can tell.

And ACORN seems to be only 1 of 342 partners Census has going in this...I'm personally more worried about the involvement of Carmax and the Coin Laundry Association. -;) . In any case, none of the partners seem to be in a position to be privy to confidential info, at least based on what Census says. (See http://2010.census.gov/partners/pdf/partnerList.pdf for the list and http://2010.census.gov/partners/partners/ for description of what the partners are doing.)

Clearly, there's always the potential for abuse with a project like the Census -- maybe the greedy census taker who paints my address will think it's worthwhile to sell it to some evildoer and risk the $250K fine and 5 years in jail they could get for selling Census info, but on a scale of 1 to 10, this particular concern doesn't rank very high for me.

You make a good point about Arlo and the man-made virus, though; when I read that, I initially scoffed inwardly, but then I saw this article in Salon on the 1976 swine flu:

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2009/0 ... index.html

Although it was not really the point of the article, I could not help but notice that the first 1976 swine flu case involved a soldier at Fort Dix and, most significantly: "By the end of January, 155 soldiers at Fort Dix reported positive for swine flu antibodies. None of the soldiers' families or co-workers, however, had been exposed to the virus; all of the reported swine flu cases had been limited to the soldiers in Private Lewis' camp. The virus wasn't spreading. For some reason this information did not mollify the doctors, and on Feb. 14, 1976, the CDC issued a notice to all U.S. hospitals to be on the lookout for any cases of swine flu. By March, the normal end of flu season, worldwide cases of all types of flu had diminished, and not one case of swine flu had been reported outside of Fort Dix." Although I'm dubious about Arlo's theory, particularly given that this seems to have started in Mexico, I ultimately felt that I couldn't dismiss it out of hand given that the last swine flu began and apparently was confined to a military base. One does wonder.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:39 pm
  

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And Ted Turner is on record as saying the world is over populated, and the herd needs to be culled. Well, he isn't alone in that thought, there are others just like him. About 10 years ago, Dick Cheney was on record as saying we will soon be able to biologically target and depopulate any racial group we want. Two truly chilling, thoughts. We may now be watching this happen.

At least 4 years ago, maybe more, the top 10 microbiologists in the country disappeared or died under very mysterious/suspicious circumstances within a very short time frame (a couple months). Now the other day I hear this count is up to 80! Not a good career choice it seems. These were the people who would have either been working on this problem or raising all kinds of red flags.

Baxter who I think is making most of the vaccines recently sent a batch to the Chek Republic. Fortunately they tested it on ferrets before giving it to their citizens. The ferrets all died. It was contaminated with Avian Flu. This company has a horrible record.

Back a few years ago during the first Gulf war I think, when there was a fear of smallpox, a vaccine was put out. They started giving it to the military, and they were getting horrible sick, and not recovering but not dying either. At that time many of the senior military officers took retirement if they could rather than take the vaccine. And when they tried to force the 1st responders, doctors, nurses, police and firemen to take the vaccine, even threatening them with losing their jobs, enough of them said NO, and refused it. And that was the end of that one.

And several years ago Congress passed legislation, protecting all the vaccine makers. If you have a bad reaction, to anything they produce, you have to actually prove that it was done maliciously. Fat chance of ever proving that. See: http://drtenpenny.com/swine_flu.aspx


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Perhaps the reason Obama isn't concerned with closing the borders.... No need to, we'll just kill 'em off instead?


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Thanks for the heads-up Dave. But I'm not worried......the new house I just built doesn't have a front door! That ought to drive them bananas......!


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Yup, Dave. They specified you need to be able to use a GPS device, way back in September. You don't suppose that (GULP) they might to make the post office more efficient ...

If the USPS has your addy, the gummint already has your location. Trust me--it's been that way for a couple hundred years+.


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Being an avid reader of medical thrillers for over 20 years, nothing here about avians and pigs and flu bothers me... whether it's some kind of plot to "weed out" or "cull" the overly populated areas or not... been there, done that (at least on paper). Wish I could remember some of the titles I could recommend to you all.


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